Which Linux distribution do you primarily use on your Linux desktop?

I don't use Linux on my desktop
5% (1174 votes)
Debian
13% (3321 votes)
Gentoo
8% (2051 votes)
Linspire
2% (590 votes)
Mandrake
9% (2404 votes)
Red Hat
3% (881 votes)
Slackware
5% (1319 votes)
SuSE
17% (4397 votes)
Xandros
3% (739 votes)
Yoper
4% (914 votes)
Fedora
11% (2886 votes)
Libranet
1% (235 votes)
Other
19% (4980 votes)
Total votes: 25891
Carlie Fairchild - Thu, 2004-11-18 09:29.

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Linspire Live 5.0

I love this OS it runs from CD and you can brag that you have linux. Its awesome. And as easy as windows

An - ymous (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-18 19:48.

It won't install or run on my

It won't install or run on my machine most other non commercial distros will this is why people will never use linux if they keep putting junk out! I am a long time BLAG user and it rocks!!!

An - ymous (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-22 15:51.

Why is Ubuntu missing in this vote?

I'm using ubuntu, which seems in generel to be a very popular Linux-distro. Why is it missing in this voting?

//madzzoni

An - ymous (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-18 17:34.

Knoppix is dead easy to install and packed with good stuff

I like Knoppix and look forward to the Knoppix 4.0 DVD edition. Is a live CD and has a great selection of the best Debian packages preinstalled.

Knoppix-fan (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-18 14:59.

hi :)

I havent found any perfect Linux OS till now because i want my MODEM to work in Linux.Till now no Linux OS has detected it :( .I have D-Link Internal 56Kbps V.92 Data/Fax/Voice Modem ---DFM-56OIS+++
God plzz Bless me as i want to surf the net in Linux :P

Ramchandra (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-17 19:39.

getting winmodem to work in Linux

I don't have a D-Link modem like you do, but I feel
your pain. Why not go to Xandros.com forum and
ask about this modem. Find out if anyone else has
it working. I am currently using Xandros 2, that's the
2.4 kernal. I have the Delux Xandros 3 but won't
use it because only 2.0 has a driver for my HSP
Winmodem. It works great and Xandros is very easy
to install and use and has great support. Look into
this a little more before you give up.

charlemax (not verified) - Tue, 2005-06-21 18:06.

D-Link Modem

Unfortunately, that modem is a "winmodem" or software modem... a portion of its functionality (over and above the driver) is performed by Windows-only software, so it requires Windows to work. To my knowledge, there is little hope of getting these types of modems to work on any OS other than Windows.

The best option is, unfortunately, to buy a new modem. Look for a hardware modem (almost all external modems are this type, and many internal ones are available as well). If the box/documentation state that it requires Windows to work, it's a software modem.

The best place to find a list of modems compatible with Linux is at http://linmodems.org and http://start.at/modem.

Dave C

DaveC (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-18 21:45.

ATI WinModem success

My laptop's built-in ATI IXP WinModem works under Linux using ALSA and the SmartLink daemon (slmodemd).

Just my 2 cents..

Daniel Brodzik (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-19 08:52.

RE: D-Link Modem (WinModems)

Ramchandra,
I agree with your sentiments. I have an ADSL connection now but would still like to be able to connect my second PC using dial-up via the internat WinModem rather than waste valuable desk space with an external modem (which I happen to have, but most Windows converts won't).
I was involved with a project to provide cheap but effective computers for retired folks. The idea is to use donated ex-corporate PCs with Linux and a cheap printer. These PCs generally include a WinModem. The cost of an external modem is a significant increase for a project such as this. Printers are another issue. Many Canon ink jet printers lack Linux drivers; Canon is (in my part of the world) the largest selling and generally one of the cheapest printers.
I don't wish to criticise 'Dave C' but his response is typical of Linux users and, no offence to Dave, shows a lack of 'real world' perspective. I have never been able to understand this 'no proprietary drivers' philosophy in the Linux community. Surely it is possible to have open source 'proprietary' drivers. These drivers are only software after all. We (the Linux community) need to be trying to convince hardware manufacturers to include Linux drivers or provide specs so someone in the open source community can develop the drivers.
Regards,
Peter

Peter (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-19 02:00.

I have winmodem 2 and when I

I have winmodem 2 and when I tried to install Mandriva I got this message
"Sorry your modem is not supported, ..... "

Now I use Gentoo and I installed slmodem and it works very very well
Thanks to Gentoo, Gentoo forum, smart link :)

xman (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-22 07:57.

Mandriva supports winmodem

Mandriva supports winmodem
look for hsfmodem-kernel-2.6.11-6mdk-7.18.00.03full-1mdk.i586.rpm

same for hcfmodem..........rpm

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-30 23:41.

Cheap But Effective Computers

Peter,
Not really for this thread but I'm interested in the project you described. I want to do something similar for Senior Citizens here in Missoula.

I wonder if there is a way to trade mail addresses without posting for the world. I'd be interested in any problems you had and how you solved them.

Larry

lmstahl (not verified) - Tue, 2005-06-21 11:19.

Ubuntu is a really nice distribution...

I think Ubuntu is a really nice distribution, it hasn't been easier in the past trying to install applications and libraries. Now with apt-get and having changed the repositories everything works just fine.
But why all developers, keep on, not setting DMA=ON!!!?
I had to do hdparm -d1 dev/hdc, so I could see DVD movies smoothly and non-choppied! :)

dimitris_s (not verified) - Tue, 2005-07-26 08:24.

Peter, I have to say that you

Peter, I have to say that you are the one being typical of Linux critics. While there is one thread of opposition to proprietary drivers and other software, the Linux community holds many diverse viewpoints. The lack of drivers for Windows-only hardware is not due to some ideology on the part of Linux users/developers, but to the refusal of hardware makers to either open the source for their driver software or provide Linux-compatible drivers. Frankly I get really tired of folks trying to blame the problem on some mythical Linux user puritanism. The problem is exclusively the pathetic MS worship on the part of some hardware sellers.

Does this cause a reaction? Yes it does. I think Canon, for example, makes some nice products, but as long as they act as Microsoft's little toady they'll never get another dime out of me. Companies that devote themselves to fighting against open source deserve nothing but contempt as far a I'm concerned.

And what on earth you mean by "proprietary open source" drivers is beyond me. "Proprietary MEANS closed source. It's like wanting dry wetness or square wheels. Linux developers work hard at getting hardware drivers opened, and have done some amazing reverse engineering to workaround the hardware makers' monopolistic ambitions.

Which brings me back, finally, to Ramchandra's question. Not all distros are alike when it comes to modem support. Mepis is amazing in detecting and running a lot of difficult hardware, and some people have found that it works even with winmodems. Might be worth a try if you haven't already. I can't vouch for it because I've always had an external modem --faster, longer lasting, less trouble prone, and I like to see what's going on. Now I have broadband, which worked on Mepis as soon as they plugged it in -- unlike the old Windows I keep on another partition.

Peter, as far as you admirable effort to get computers to people, I would think with the shift to broadband there would be tons of external modems out there to be had for the asking. Have you tried to get some donated?

DaveW (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-19 09:21.

Linux compatible hardware

Amen.
So many hardware vendors don't get it. I just ordered parts for 30 computers for my computer lab where I teach. Did I spec ATI video cards for these machines? Heck no--NVidia has been issuing, updating and maintaining (proprietary) accelerated drivers for their cards for some time now, so NVidia video cards are what I specified. ATI is just now starting to make and issue Linux drivers for their video cards, and guess what? They're hard to install, and often, the drivers don't work well (at least ATI is now making an effort).

The lab machines will be Linux/Win XP dual boot (though my students will spend most of their time in Linux). I carefully checked for compatibility with Linux before specifying any of the hardware.

Years ago, when I had dial-up Internet access at home, I bought an external modem for home use, which worked very well with both Linux (and MS-Win, because I was using both OS's at home--now I only use Linux at home). A few winmodems will work with Linux--depends on the chipset of the winmodem.

When you shop for a hardware component and find a component that won't work with Linux, make it a point to email the manufacturer and tell them that you chose another product because theirs won't work with Linux.

Dave is right about Cannon--I was looking at printers a few months ago, and I was surprised at Cannon's lack of support for Linux. So, the next digital camera I buy (in about 6 months) won't be a Cannon made camera either. I don't think I alone in doing this sort of thing--I'm sure many other Linux users act similarly.

An - ymous (not verified) - Fri, 2005-07-01 21:03.

Hi Peter. No offense, taken.

Hi Peter. No offense, taken. My response wasn't from a philosophical viewpoint, but from a pragmatic one. Is it possible to create a driver for these modems? I'm sure it is. Linuxant.com, for one, is working on just that, and as others have written, some distributions do work with some winmodems.

However, until a programmer is irritated enough to write and test the code for this particular type of modem, the end result is the same...the hardware may not work. In this case, if you need the functionality, you either wait for someone to write the code, or you buy hardware that's known to work.

I'm not a linux programmer, so I can't work it out myself. And if a company wants to write a proprietary driver, more power to 'em (I use ATI's proprietary video drivers on my Mandrake box).

I encountered the same modem issue myself a few years back, and I bought a real modem. Problem solved, no matter what OS I used. In my case, the cost of a new modem was less than the value of my time fighting to get a cheap windows-only modem to work.

For the non-profit/charity type organizations you mention, I feel for them. I really do. But in the short term, we have to work within the limitations we have.

As for your last statement, I am in complete agreement. Getting the specs released (or even better, getting them to write proper s/w drivers for both Windows and Linux) is the best long-term solution.

Dave C

DaveC (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-19 08:26.

Linspire can detect and run s

Linspire can detect and run some Winmodems...

An - ymous (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-19 04:21.

Who put together this list?

Who put together this list?
Mandrake called Mandriva for at least 2 months now
Red Hat is a server operating system, Fedora is the desktop version
According to Distrowatch Page hit rating, out of the first three Ubantu and Mephis is missing
but we have libranet rating 17 and Yoper rating 23
Where is Knoppix and all the Knoppix variants i.e. Kanotix
Where is PCLinuxOS

I realize that all theese missing distro's are available as livecd, but it doesn't mean that they are not desktop operating systems. They all have Hard Disk installer and installed version normally beats hands down the "daddy"

An - ymous (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-17 15:22.

pclinuxos

pclinuxos

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-16 22:57.

SimplyMepis is just SimplyAwe

SimplyMepis is just SimplyAwesome!!!

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-09 11:55.

Couldn't agree more!

This was the only distro that would recognise my wi-fi network. Everything worked first time without any problems. Great Distro

Paul (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-17 08:18.

lame comment system

lame comment system

An - (not verified) - M - , 2005-06-06 16:42.

Agreed

The letter "o" is replaced with a "-" and what does "not verified mean?

Anth - y (not verified) - Wed, 2005-07-13 13:12.

Linux Distro

You guys should add PCLinuxOS to your list.
:)

Psi - (not verified) - M - , 2005-06-06 15:06.

PCLinux

Great OS..

JRod (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-11 04:42.

Agreed

Yeah, PCLinuxOS is growing fast. Definitley add it. "Other" sounds inferior, which PCLOS isn't for sure.

Mike (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-16 21:29.

Two options

Hi dear all,

It would be great if this site start a new pool where we can vote on two options! I have 3 computers, two with SuSe and one with Slackware.

Thanks,
Beco.

Beco (not verified) - Sun, 2005-06-05 07:54.

Mepis

I use SimplyMepis, but it isn't on the list.
Maybe you should add it.

Armand (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-04 04:00.

Ubuntu/Kubuntu

I use Ubuntu/Kubuntu (I started out with Ubuntu, but I installed KDE and kdm through the apt-get script). Yeah, I'm a Linux n00b. As soon as I know more about UNIX, I plan on either switching to Slackware or going with OpenDarwin.

Michael Hunt (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-02 16:49.

Slackware is great... Test fi

Slackware is great... Test first a livecd based on it, like GoblinX, Slax or Mutagenix
Then you can install Slackware and become a fan for eternity.

An - ymous (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-04 05:19.

mepsis

can any one tell me y i should install mepsis ive heard good things about it ,, What
version of kde it uses i use suse 9.3 any differences ??? , i want this 4 a test pc
to test distros and software is it good 4 software :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-02 15:32.

Try it Live

You can run Mepis straight from the disc. If you like it then you can load it to your hard disc. Give it a try - you won't be disappointed

Paul (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-17 08:20.

SuSe 9.3

Simply rocks the pants of any other distro

LINU>< man (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-02 15:17.

Does it work well with USB de

Does it work well with USB devices? I recently switched from SuSE 9.1 to Xandros. Xandros is quite user friendly but I liked the power of YeST in SuSE linux.

Yuri (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-22 19:11.

For the desktop I could not a

For the desktop I could not agree more. SuSe 9.3 is the only distro which recognised my modem and sound card on my Dell 8500 laptop and installed the only correct software for my modem. I also run RedHat 4.0 ES on my Oracle RAC cluster. I tried Fedora Core 4, but it breaks more, if your are on FC3 stay put.

xray (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-18 04:06.

Ubuntu:simply the best!

Ubuntu:simply the best!

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-02 00:47.

PC-BSD (not exactly Linux, I know...)

After a couple of years using SuSE with reasonable success I've recently downloaded an interesting new BSD project (http://www.pcbsd.com) that sticks the KDE3.4 desktop on top of FreeBSD 5.4... aptly named PC-BSD.

I know it ain't exactly Linux, but it's definitely worth mentioning here for one big reason: a package manager!

This distro lets you download a host of apps that have been ported over to it (Firefox, Gimp, OpenOffice, Quanta, XMMS, the list grows) and simply double-click the downloaded file icon to install. WOW: mac-like ease for newbies!

You have to like the KDE desktop (I do) cause there's no option for Gnome or the others (yet..) and I should note that this is still in it's 0.7 beta stage.

However, for anyone who has ever been frustrated trying to figure thier way through package dependancies and just use the OS, this distro is a LIFESAVER. It's stable, beautiful, easy-to-use. In short, I'm in love. Check it out!

GrantA (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-01 19:21.

i wish linux would go to hell

i wish linux would go to hell.

An - ymous (not verified) - Tue, 2005-05-31 23:27.

Yers, so do I. Satan is in n

Yers, so do I.
Satan is in need of a decent OS, as I was told the heat was crashing windows95

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-30 23:47.

Yers, so do I. Satan is in n

Yers, so do I.
Satan is in need of a decent OS, as I was told the heat was crashing windows95

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-30 23:47.

oh...im a loser

oh...im a loser

An - ymous (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-01 16:20.

Get off.

Get off our site if all you want to do is bash linux.

It was mainstream in Germany to become national socialists, but was it okay because it was mainstream?

Lunarcloud (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-01 15:21.

linux is crap...

linux is crap...

An - ymous (not verified) - Tue, 2005-05-31 23:24.

Yes, linux is absolutely crap

Yes, linux is absolutely crap.
After being with windows for about 8 years and having my daily fun with rebooting, BSOD, hanging systems , crashed apps, not to forget weekly virus updates, worms and a lot more fun, which I can't have with linux, I can't aree more with you

An - ymous (not verified) - Thu, 2005-06-30 23:53.

Any supporting details you'd

Any supporting details you'd like to share with the class? My Linux isn't crap. Anybody else?

An - ymous (not verified) - Wed, 2005-06-01 19:22.

Linux is OKay, it's the user

If you don't understand the it, don't use it!
Some users just can't handle the amount of functionality

t - eus (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-17 06:50.

It's All Good

I've been using Linux for over 10 years and Slack has always been my personal favorite. I've tested all of the major distros and a great many of the new ones as they come out.

I have to say that they all have their pros and cons. It all just depends on the user's needs, preferences, and level of knowledge.

While Slack is my primary desktop distro and probably always will be, I do keep a few distro disks laying around to play with. I always keep a Mepis disk to show to newbies who are thinking of trying Linux. As far as the "newbie type" distros, I think it's one of the best for hardware detection, ease of installation, and "works out of the box" in more cases than not.

IMHO ANY linux is better than a M$ system.

I also find it amusing that you always see a few M$ fanboys show up to troll Linux discussions, but you rarely (if ever) see Linux people trolling an M$ discussion. I guess we're just more secure about our favorite OS?

Mas - M (not verified) - M - , 2005-05-30 14:10.

M$ Fanboys?

I never realised there were M$ fanboys (and as that may be considered sexist I think we should call them "M$ fanfools"). I mean, I know people use windows and stuff but everybody I know who has used it has also cursed it and complained bitterly about it when it goes wrong.

Ubuntu for me at the moment (Mandriva 10.1 LE is evil btw) but I'm going to try debian sarge when it is released on monday... (unless i get impatient and install it later today)

Human Prototype (not verified) - Fri, 2005-06-03 05:01.

Mandriva 10.1 LE is evil btw

Mandriva 10.1 LE is evil btw

There is non such thing like that.
The first an only LE version is 10.2.
Previously there was Mandrake 10.1 and even that was not evil
The current version is 10.2, and it works almost faultlessly for the majority of users.
Please, as a Linux user, don't bash other linux distributions, as you lower yourself to the level of other bashers, which you hate so much.

An - ymous (not verified) - Fri, 2005-07-01 00:01.

Debian - Sarge

I've been using Sarge almost since it went to Testing. I cut my linux teeth on Debian nine or ten years ago and I have seen no reason to switch

Xander (not verified) - Sat, 2005-06-04 12:37.