The Future of TUX

First, let me thank the hundreds of people who have taken time to email me about TUX. Virtually every message praised TUX and talked about why it was needed. Well, I agree. The issue is how to make it possible.

For a number of reasons--not all financial--the model we had built for TUX was not sustainable. At this point, a group of us who were involved in TUX are tossing some ideas around. Where it will go we are not sure but let me assure you that enough of us feel TUX needs to exist that we will try our best to come up with, as they say, "Plan B".

As we continue to "think", expect to see some new content here. I will at least post a couple of the articles from what would have been issue 21.

fyl - Fri, 2007-01-05 12:39.
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don't abandon us!

After being away from any sort of technology for the past couple of months I returned to you to finally renew and pay for my sub...
but you're gone, say it isn't so. If my tardiness in renewing/paying was the cause of your demise I am so sorry.
Your articles presented valid and useful information for those of use trying to commit to linux, without 'dumbing' down topics or writing articles that would appeal only to IT experts.
Please make a commitment to people such as myself and I will not be 'late' with my subscription again, ever.
Thank you.

trevor (not verified) - Sat, 2007-02-24 00:30.

know your market

As a paid subscriber, I am disappointed tux is no more (at least for now). But I must admit I was also often disappointed by TUX itself because it focused so much on KDE apps and the KDE UI. I began using linux with mandrake, but when ubuntu came out with the first "real" release I dropped mandrake and never looked back - as many, many others also seem to have done.

Ubuntu is the most popular distro right now and it focuses primarly on gnome. All offer a choice, but it seems the top 5 distributions primarily focus on gnome - so how can you expect to sustain a linux magazine primarily directed at newcomers without focusing on apps and tools deployed by default in the number one distro?

popt - es (not verified) - Wed, 2007-02-14 14:26.

Tux Business Model

I have just received the March edition of Linux Journal to which I subscribe. On page 10 in the magazine info column it gives details of both print subscriptions and digital subscriptions. If this model works for big brother LJ why can't it work for Tux?

I use Linux because it is a stable SECURE O/S, but I don't know anything about it, I work with applications to make my bread, so I miss TUX a great deal as it explained things in a way I could relate to and understand. I hope TUX returns.

Roy

Roy (not verified) - M - , 2007-02-12 15:27.

How About Open Source TUX?

I have enjoyed TUX since the first issue. It has brought me closer and closer to making a decision to completely replace Windows. I hate to see this valuable resource go.

It would seem to me that the Open Source model for software development might work with an online magazine such as TUX. You could develop a set of standards for authoring articles - allowing anyone with something to share to contribute. Maybe to simplify distribution, articles could be viewed online only - maybe add a printer friendly button for those of us that might want to print to pdf. There would be no need to create monthly issues of the magazine - TUX would simply consist of a continually updated series of articles.

Maybe someone could develop and maintain a list of desired articles - this could come from readers. Authors could potentially sign up to write articles from this list - as open source software developers do with software issues.

Just a few ideas. I hope something can be done to save TUX.

Mike Williams (not verified) - Sun, 2007-02-04 11:14.

Plan B?

My first reaction at finding no more TUX? Horror!!!! This has to have been the very best mag' on the market. It catered primarily for newcomers (I refuse to say newbie as I hate that word) but also contained good items for seasonsed Linux users.

Maybe you guys could give us some information about plan B? There are no doubt enough people on here reading about the future of TUX who have good business brains. Maybe those people could give some advice on how to best get TUX up and running again?

My personal suggestion would be to solicit a bit more advertising from both the US and the UK (and other countries). I'm sure if you offered competitive rates for advertising space many of the Linux oriented businesses would bite your hand off.

Now, as to those who are moaning about the KDE/Gnome bias... ok, I see your point but I also happen to agree with the authors that KDE is far friendlier to somebody moving over from Windows. On that score I foresee a lot more people wanting an alternative to Microsoft after seeing the pricing strategy for VISTA :-O OH MY GOD!!!! Expensive or what???? Has Bill finally killed that golden goose? I think so..

Kevan (not verified) - Thu, 2007-02-01 04:53.

Tux magazine reader's thoughts

I first discovered your magazine while trying to get a wireless card workingand found a reference to a very helpful article in one of your early issues. Thanks to the very well written article, I did get the wireless card working, and immediately subscribed to your magazine and downloaded the back issues. Replace "wireless card" with your favorite piece of hardware/software, and I think you've got 90% of your reader's stories.
A while ago, you solicited reader's opinions on going with a paid subscription route; I responded yes then and would now as well. I hope to have the opportunity.
If you were to change the magazine slightly, I'd like to see a recurring section devoted to using Linux with......, that is, like most people, I've got a linux pc, a windows pc, a mac laptop, an ipod, etc and would like all the devices to work well with my linux pc (since that's my primary desktop). I imagine a lot of readers would be interested in these kind of integration articles.
Best of luck and keep us posted - we want you to succeed !

Quentin (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-29 16:07.

How is very thing working with plan B?

Hey!

How is very thing working with plan B?
It would really suck, if TUX had to close for good!

Tobias (not verified) - Sat, 2007-01-20 04:13.

death of another LINUX rag?

well, after reading thru the page here i now understand why my issues suddenly stopped showing up.. you really want to make this work get it back into the format that it was originally envisioned as; the online, downloadable magazine for the absolute linux neophyte who is really trying hard to transition off mac or windoze over to whatever flavor of linux, and doesnt have all that much knowledge of UNIx programming or anything else, but wants a good stable open OS that doesn't charge him/her to just breathe on their own keyboard and allows them to use the stuff they already own without violating some arbitrary business induced law that isn't even real or legal. .,..and please get rid of that damn mango avatar/character crap.. not only was it in seriously bad taste, it really had no place here at all.

An - ymous (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-15 23:53.

hmm.

Odd that this isn't working the way it was supposed to... kind of hard to see why it isn't sustainable... Puzzling.

Taran Rampersad (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-15 23:02.

Where are you going? I just got here!

I JUST found this site, and you're leaving? It pains me to see a good resource go away. I hope you guys can find a way to carry on, because people like me need your help with this fantastic thing called Linux!

Lupo (not verified) - Sat, 2007-01-13 20:43.

What can we do?

Please let us know about what can we do to keep the magazine going. I was in, almost at the very beginning. I would surely paid for subscription if need it.

pookito (not verified) - Thu, 2007-01-11 16:53.

If there will be a retry, stop alienating Gnome users

With the limited market that a magazine as Tux has, I always thought it was incredibly self-defeating to alienate about half of your potential readers by constantly insulting them and implying they are idiots. I used to be a KDE user and moved over to Gnome. I agree that KDE has more features, but in my opition, all the features littered the GUI and made it look too busy, so now I enjoy the more relaxed interface that Gnome provides. If Tux will get a new life (and I hope it does), please come to terms with the fact that about half your potential readers will use KDE and half will use Gnome, and a small percentage will use something else. There is a reason 2 out of the 3 top distributions on DistroWatch use Gnome as their default interface. The people who use them are not all idiots, just because they have different likes and dislikes than you do.

Patrick (not verified) - Thu, 2007-01-11 10:02.

^^ Agreed.stop GNOME bashing

^^ Agreed.stop GNOME bashing service.

Prakash (not verified) - M - , 2007-02-12 16:12.

I agree when you continue

I agree when you continue with planB, give gnome a chance! I was raised on Windows for 3.1 to Vista and when I finally started trying to move to Linux I started with Mandrake, then Mandriva. I finally gave up KDE was just to confusing and I could never get anything configured right. I read in one of your early issues about Ubuntu, downloaded it and have used it ever since. Imagine a Windows User loing gnome over kde? I just find it easier to do what I need to do.

An - ymous (not verified) - Sun, 2007-02-18 19:29.

Humor?

Limited market? I guess I don't see that as an issue. The potential market for TUX is larger than that for any other Linux publication I know of.

I do think we wasted our breath with regard to Gnome, however. There is no reason to waste editorial time an space on what is really a argument for people who aren't the core of TUX readership. TUX is about running applications on the KDE desktop which, at times, means running a non-KDE application there. That's the focus. Further discussion is just added confusion for our core audience.

fyl - Fri, 2007-01-12 15:47.

Interesting.

I guess I never realized that "TUX is about running applications on the KDE desktop". I never saw that spelled out anywhere, and I read all your issues. I think you should change your tagline from "The first and only magazine for the new Linux user" to "The first and only magazine for the new KDE user". That way the rest of us will know we have to go elsewhere.

Patrick (not verified) - Tue, 2007-01-16 16:56.

Nope

I believe our tagline is correct. Your suggestion would imply TUX is for someone moving to KDE from a different desktop. While we are clearly a good magazine for that, we are about Linux. Based on our research and experience, KDE is the best desktop choice for someone new to the Linux desktop, particularly those migrating from Microsoft platforms.

Many of our articles are about non-KDE applications. The recent article about the GIMP is a perfect example. We want to show you how to get the job done and if the best way is with a non-KDE application, that is what we will talk about. But, as for the desktop itself, our choice is KDE.

Read those magazines again. I believe you will see this is exactly what we are doing. Now, if you want to learn about a different desktop, you are correct that you should go elsewhere. But, we are not about learning about desktops, we are about getting work done and focusing on one desktop just makes it easier for that new Linux desktop user to get things done.

fyl - Wed, 2007-01-17 07:06.

What's wrong with this picture?

I love TUX, and I looked forward to every issue. But, I refuse to pay anything for it. Why is that? because if the OS itself is free, why should I pay for a magazine that offers advise on how to use it? There is so much free information on the Internet about Linux that paying for it makes no sense to me. And yet, Tux, as a whole, is worthy of support. So, what's the answer? I think that the advertising support model makes the most sense. There is no doubt in my mind that Tux can deliver a solid reader base that has needs and desires that hardware/software manufacturers can economically reach through advertising in the magazine. I not only suggest this, but I welcome it! It's sort of like the gmail.com concept. I actually enjoy their text ads, because they are very rel event to my interests. Advertisers in Tux will have my full and undivided attention! Tux can deliver a specific target market, and it can sell that ability to the companies that depend on us to purchase their wares.

jjp (not verified) - Wed, 2007-01-10 22:39.

TUX status update

For those of you reading here looking for your "lost TUX" I just want to say that it looks pretty positive that we will have something up and running soon. The "we" is me and a group of TUX authors. We are still working out details but we all agree that TUX is needed.

Watch the web site for forthcoming details. Also, we are posting articles here daily--some from the old PDFs and some new ones.

fyl - Wed, 2007-01-10 17:16.

Willing to pay or support

I have loved your magazine from the very start. I have followed each and every subscription. Thanks to your help and advice I have converted to Linux (I am a gamer so that makes it tough). Wine and World of Warcraft are running perfectly if not faster than my xp system. I would love to help your magazine in anyway possible to continue. I will pay for subscriptions or "donate" if needed.
Thank you for the wonderful magazine and I only hope it can continue.
Lance

Lance (not verified) - Wed, 2007-01-10 10:26.

No more TUX really SUX

I just popped into the site to see where my January Issue was and was SHOCKED to see that it may be/probably is ending.

Please keep us informed of what we can do to help TUX. I really enjoyed reading each issue and used it not only for the help it provided but to promote Linux to others.

Also, I really like the fact that "mailers" don't fall out of my screen and onto the floor when I turn that pages :)

johnboy68 (not verified) - Wed, 2007-01-10 09:57.

end of TUX?

Sorry to hear that TUX is ending...
Perhaps that explains my difficulties trying to find where to pay my subscription fee. I have gained a great deal from this magazine. Why must the magazines that teach us the most end the soonest?

Wishing all the greatest success in the future, good luck and many thanks.

charlie kravetz

Charlie (not verified) - Tue, 2007-01-09 17:43.

TUX demise

Very sad to hear the news. Great magazine for newbies and advanced users alike. Lets hope you come up with plan B

Fornhamfred (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-08 14:04.

Anything we can do to help?

Can we readers do anything to help with the non-financial problems? I'm perfectly happy to send money for a subscription but you said there were other problems too...
-- Don

D - Ramsey (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-08 09:42.

Well,

Well,
I had spare some money to subscribe to the new Tux but as many other, I'm disapointed while I was waiting for the first issue of 2007 with much impatience.

I hope you'll be back soon. This magazine is really a need for most of us and a premium source of knowledge about Linux and it's capacity even for common users.

Most of the linux magazine I know are too technical, too much code typing oriented. TUX is really what I expect for.

Be back soon !!
D.

David (not verified) - M - , 2007-01-08 05:30.

Tux Mag demise

Like everyone else, I too am quite saddened by the demise of one of my favourite magazines. I was always very excited to know there was a new one waiting for me each month. Sure not all the articles were of great interest to me, but that's the case with any mag - on average I probably read all if not every page and article - and was surprised that some things were more interesting or useful than I had imagined.

I'm very happy if the magazine can be kept alive in some format.

Thank you to all who are working to this end.

Patrick (not verified) - Sun, 2007-01-07 03:37.

Next Time please-NO GNOME and GTK-based apps Bashing

Hello,
I liked the magazine.but always disappointed by the blint GNOME bashing
by the editor and others esp mango parfait.If u repub
lish,please make sure tux be an independent mag-no kde
fanboyism.so again no GNOME hatred.there are millions who loves
GNOME and gtk-apps more than qt/kde.wishing u best
regards,
PJK

Prakash Jose Kokkattu (not verified) - Sat, 2007-01-06 00:40.

sorry to hear this

very much enjoyed the magazine.

best of luck in whatever follows next.

An - ymous (not verified) - Fri, 2007-01-05 19:07.

Sorry to hear

That's very sad.

It was a magazine with a lot of potential. Perhaps it would do well to explain where the shortcomings from a financial model point of view was. That kind of info would assist others trying to use Open Source products as a business product.

Thank you and good luck for the future.

Pradesh (not verified) - Fri, 2007-01-05 16:58.

Plan B = Paid Conventional Magazine?

The first plan B that comes to my mind is making TUX a regular paper magazine a la Linux Journal. I'd totally be willing to pay for that because TUX rocked.

If nothing surfaces, I may just subscribe to Linux Journal and hope I learn something there.

Good Luck

Ray (not verified) - Fri, 2007-01-05 17:51.

I miss Tux

Hey all,

I agree with the no Gnome bashing, but some people take things too far. I love Tux magazine. I have every issue saved on my hard drive and I refer back to old issues often. Tux magazine is a way to get news about open source programs and projects out there that you would not normally hear about. We live in a Windows dominant world. When you go to the store or pick up a "popular magazine" all the software around you is windows based. This is a problem that Tux magazine was fixing. I commend the authors and organizers of Tux magazine. Eventhough I have been using Gnome as my window manager since April 2001.... :) It is publications like Tux Magazine that will help people make the switch from Windows.

If you guys from Tux Magazine could use some help from a Linux lover please let me know. I have been using debian based linux distributions since April 2001. I would not consider myself an expert, but I am very comfortable in the Linux Desktop environment. I would gladly do what I can do to help this publication live.

Rich (not verified) - Fri, 2007-01-12 16:47.

Tux is definitely needed

I agree with Rich. Tux is super needed. They offer fast solutions for new Linux users that help them make a decision to give Linux a try for more than a few days. Any Windows user that I have converted over to Linux has commented that they would have switched back to Linux if it wasn't for Tux.

On another note... Like others, I prefer to use Gnome as my desktop but that doesn't render Tux useless to me. Many of the articles are helpful in establishing a quickly accessible knowledgebase for applications that most users will want to use without requiring that people trudge through the manuals, help files, forums, and wikis. Beside that, I have found that many of the articles help me solve problems no matter what desktop I use. Which emphasizes the fact that the target audience of this publication are new Linux users (coming from Windows) who need a variety of applications for daily use; not Linux users who are looking to learn about all the different Linux Gui's. (That may be a cool idea for a Linux Magazine if critics would like to start their own publication.)

I'm glad to read that Fyl and the Tux authors are working on something to keep providing this valid publication.

Also... Will people please stop knocking Mango??? I'm sorry not all people can be as boring as you are... Mango is definitely a cool creativity device for the author and does a good job at providing information in an interesting format. Get off their back.

Best of Luck Tux!

John Gratt - (not verified) - Wed, 2007-01-17 08:15.

Charge for Tux

I for one would pay for a yearly subscription to Tux. I already pay for several other Linux mags, why not another one. It does not make any difference to me if I have pay alittle to get a quality mag.

Charge more for the ads. Track how many times a issue is downloaded and charge the advertisers per download.

What ever works get TUX back!

thanks!

An - ymous (not verified) - Tue, 2007-02-06 16:30.

The Disappearance of Tux Magazine

What a shock! I enjoyed my monthly copy of Tux Magazine, especially Mango Parfait´s column.

On 25 July 2006 I received an email from the magazine saying that it was going to a paid subscription at $9.95/12 issues. I would have willingly paid that amount monthly. The only other magazine I get each month is good but is having quality control problems with its cover disks and is quite expensive at $19.95 per month. I thought the information from TUX was very helpful and worth having.

Please reconsider and if you do manage to revive the magazine please let me know so that I may become a subscriber.

Jack Hamm (not verified) - M - , 2007-02-12 03:40.

Let me know when TUX is back...

I've subscribed to Linux Journal for several years now, which is how I first found Tux. I use Linux (Kubuntu) as my main OS on 2 of 3 computers in my home. I found Tux the perfect venue for learning just enough to appreciate new applications and ways of getting the most out of Linux.

If I need specific technical advice to tweak my OS I usually go to the distro's forums. What Tux provided was that link the broader Linux community that I was missing. LJ is way too techie oriented for my tastes. I had been hoping to switch subscriptions from LJ to Tux when the time came. Now I'm left searching for something else.

Let me know if you decide to bring Tux back - I'd gladly be a paid subscriber. I loved the content and the format.

Andy S (not verified) - Sun, 2007-02-18 23:39.